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Erin Giannini

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https://www.mythsoc.org/oms/oms-2023.htm

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8-5-2023 4:00 PM

End Date

8-5-2023 4:50 PM

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While different in genre, sitcom The Good Place and drama Lucifer share a certain irreverent tone and a somewhat unique approach to the afterlife. In The Good Place, there is no mention of gods or devils, only demons, a Good Place committee, and a judge. Lucifer, loosely based on Neil Gaiman’s graphic novels, however, features angels, demons, God, and the Devil, providing its own spin on established cosmology with embodied versions of prominent figures such as the archangel Michael and biblical brothers Cain and Abel. Yet what ties The Good Place and Lucifer together is a focus on hell and punishment as a state of mind brought about by one’s moral failings and guilt. For The Good Place, it is focused on learning to do better and thereby becoming one’s “best self,” while Lucifer leans heavily into the way the mind and its psychological tricks and turns can create a hell in both life and afterlife for both human and cosmic beings. Therefore, I will examine the way these two concepts of hell and eternity in both series both play off of and inform the other.

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Aug 5th, 4:00 PM Aug 5th, 4:50 PM

Thinking Makes It So? Hell as a (Fixable) State of Mind in The Good Place and Lucifer

While different in genre, sitcom The Good Place and drama Lucifer share a certain irreverent tone and a somewhat unique approach to the afterlife. In The Good Place, there is no mention of gods or devils, only demons, a Good Place committee, and a judge. Lucifer, loosely based on Neil Gaiman’s graphic novels, however, features angels, demons, God, and the Devil, providing its own spin on established cosmology with embodied versions of prominent figures such as the archangel Michael and biblical brothers Cain and Abel. Yet what ties The Good Place and Lucifer together is a focus on hell and punishment as a state of mind brought about by one’s moral failings and guilt. For The Good Place, it is focused on learning to do better and thereby becoming one’s “best self,” while Lucifer leans heavily into the way the mind and its psychological tricks and turns can create a hell in both life and afterlife for both human and cosmic beings. Therefore, I will examine the way these two concepts of hell and eternity in both series both play off of and inform the other.

 

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